Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené

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Health & Fitness #138, Mental Health #52

Vanessa Bennett and Dené Logan are two soul sisters and therapists who connected over their shared love of depth psychology—known as the psychology of the soul. It is a template for diving beneath the surface to examine the complex natures of being human while on the quest for wholeness, including the relationship to spirit. Through their training and lived experiences with depth, yogic psychology, and mindfulness, they developed a passion for supporting others in living their most authentic lives while cultivating a fulfilling and rich relationship with the Self, capital “S.”



Every Wednesday, Vanessa and Dené look to demystify, de-stigmatize, and desensitize what goes on both inside the therapy room and in daily life, through soul-provoking conversations with fellow seekers, thought leaders, changemakers, and real people during live coaching sessions as they navigate the hard work it takes to be a human.



This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. 



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Recent Reviews
  • Compassionate Leader
    Home
    Love love love!! I’ve learned so much. I felt heard and seen. This podcast has gotten me through the most lonely and uncertain times. Dene’s softness and Vanessa’s blunt yet compassionate approach creates the perfect balance.
  • Nick1235478
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    I’ve been following you on Instagram. And just tuned into the podcast. The title of your show is great. The topics are relatable and I put things into perspective really enjoy the show the info and the best part is becoming the best person that I can be.
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    Thank you V
  • Frsicodog78
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  • Luwalsten
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    I love your podcast, thank you so much for sharing such meaningful conversation. I have a difficult request. I am in a relationship with someone that grew up very agnostic and I grew up the extreme other end conservative Christian. I am no longer part of that aspect of my life, I consider myself atheist, but it is still part of me because you can’t ever completely take that away from someone’s cultural upbringing. How do you navigate that relationship?! I love him so much but when it comes to my family who is still practicing Christian, he can’t do it.
  • Tashi Awesome
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    Sudden ad-breaks disrupt the flow of conversation! Please provide some simple cue that an ad is about to take place.
  • Ladybtonn
    Loving this
    Super helpful with clarity!! Thank you 🙏🏼
  • Tina2893
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  • BriDan85
    Wonderful podcast
    Such an informative podcast! The only issue would be the audio discrepancies, and the s sound/sibilance can be ear piercingly harsh, so much so I have to skip certain episodes, which is very unfortunate.
  • Emkur
    176 permission not to work so hard
    LOVED the podcast episode about permission to not work so hard 💕🥳🎉 I shared with at least 3 friends already. I may just share with patients just to listen to the last 15 minutes to hear those nuggets that women don’t hear enough. Stop looking outside yourself for validation!!💪🏻 you just need to make that last segment into a loop people can listen to each morning!!
  • mihrllec
    Need to fix audio
    The audio is so poor for this podcast. It sounds like this has been an issue for awhile. Goes up and down constantly, sometimes sounds like they have moved away from microphone.
  • LWoldrews
    Just Wow Yes
    Thank you!!! “We expect our partners to do our reparenting for us…” Spot on…
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    ❤️
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  • M-Yogini
    Wonderful Podcast
    This is a super fun podcast. Ive enjoyed many episodes! Sometimes the sound quality isn’t very good on some episodes and it’s hard to hear what they are saying. It would be great if they could get that figured out. Otherwise it’s a smart and engaging show! Keep up the interesting conversations.
  • CallMeBettyC
    Content is great, production is not
    The conversations are great, it’s really insightful content, but the production is so awful it’s hard to listen to. The sound is very inconsistent and will go from so low I have to keep turning the volume up to LOUD and jarring. Also, the ads are often at a much higher volume than the rest of the show and in the last episode I listened to the ad cut in the middle of a sentence and made me jump it was so loud. Love the content but I don’t choose this one often because I can’t deal with the other issues which is a bummer.
  • saedmedina
    PLEASE FIX THE AUDIO
    Hey vanessa i LOVE your podcast but sometimes i have a HARD time being able to understand every word because of the audio can you guys please update the audio your content is really valuable thank you!! For everything
  • sarabartell
    The ads…
    I want to love this podcast but they have a really creepy ad for a True Crime podcast that just turns on so randomly and has no transition, it ruins the vibe and flow. I had to stop an episode because it’s just so creepy and not the same positive energy as the rest of the podcast.
  • klagain
    Amazing content!
    I have loved every single episode I’ve listened to. Thank you for your beautiful work and for sharing it with the world. I have gotten so much value out of your podcasts. I do want to say that the latest 2 - 3 episodes have had terrible sound on Dene’s speaker (I think Dene. Maybe it’s Vanessa) it’s really hard to hear and understand what she is saying. Maybe the speaker is not working? Still worth listening to but a little frustrating to comprehend. Thanks again for your beautiful light that you are sharing.
  • mverni_Art
    SOOOO GOOD!
    Recently discovered these amazing women and their podcast - they have such beautiful conversations with sooo much warmth and compassion. But also keep it real with humor or sharing their own experiences. Incredible insight, incredible guests and an honest portrayal that none of us is ever “done” evolving into our best selves! L😘VE!!!
  • Nathalie Rodrigues de Carvalho
    Please fix audio for better listening experience
    The content is so great, but so hard to listen to because of audio inconsistencies. The hosts’ volume is really loud and jarring and the guests’ is often too low. Would love to keep listening but it can be almost painful on the ear because of the microphone quality. Especially when people laugh :(
  • Fork the Man
    A mental health routine staple
    Compassionate, insightful, transparent, and definitely cheaper than therapy.
  • hotgirlfall
    New listener, great content, audio needs balancing
    Found this podcast on an Instagram deep dive on therapists with compassionate perspectives & liked the show title ;) Would love if y’all could adjust the audio so that guests and hosts are all recorded at the same volume, it’s very much shouting versus quiet and switches throughout the episode.
  • SillyHillbilly
    Love, audio quality could be better!
    Wonderful, insightful podcast that hits home - would love if more time was spent evening the volume for a better listening experience:)
  • virtual therapist
    Love!
    As a therapist, I love this podcast! Vanessa and Dene are so relatable and make these topics digestible to so many people! A topic to explore in future podcasts - misunderstanding borderline personality disorder & codependency
  • HermosaCarol
    Redheads
    I think it’s awesome your mom liked being a redhead and you tried it at one time in the past and recently colored your hair again as a redhead. This is my ten cents; my mom colored her hair red and I’ve been a redhead for decades by choice. I love being a redhead and I get compliments all the time on my hair… I do think the color changes how we present ourselves without us even knowing it; without us even trying. Redheads are scarce and unusual…it’s a natural attention getter. Combined with fair skin it’s a lovely contrast. If you like being a redhead stay a redhead head!! P.S. I love the podcast :-) Congrats on 100 episodes.
  • MyDeiti
    Their energy is INSANE!!!
    Vanessa and Dené show is aboslutly amazing! They combine their psycological background & lived experiences with depth, yogic psychology, and mindfulness to serve others in living their most authentic lives! I love it!
  • Obsessed1235
    THANK You!
    Thank you so much for this show Vanessa and Dené! The content of your show is great but I think it’s the dynamic between you two that really makes it. I really enjoy seeing how each of you approaches a situation. Keep doing your thing!! I will gladly keep supporting!!
  • 3 buoys
    I LOVE this show!!
    Thank you so much for doing this podcast! I discovered Dene on Amy Smith’s pod and came over here and will not leave!! I love the different formats you have and especially grateful for the conversations the two of you share (recent ones on self sacrificing/coda and the woman/hbo show were you spoke so eloquently about single moms (thank you!!!) Susie Pettit 🙏🏽💙☀️
  • Marie Zambo
    Volume up
    Can you up the volume please? It’s always too low Thanks !!
  • @MichaelUnbroken
    Thank You!
    I just wanted to take a moment and say thank you for creating such an impactful podcast! I believe that we all have a voice that deserves to be heard. Thank you for putting this into the world! BE UNBROKEN! @MichaelUnbroken
  • M.Jo22
    My Fav
    This is one of my favorite podcasts! I’ve had so many revelations listening and relating to the struggles of others. Dene & Vanessa are so eloquent and intelligent. Thank you for sharing this with us!
  • M. Coquia
    Excellent
    Excellent podcast. One of my faves. I too am a therapist and listening to them brings so much joy for the work we do in holding space for sacred work.
  • coreyc90
    Great podcast
    This podcast has become a constant sort of support and inspiration to me. Love these ladies, not only are they intelligent, but they are so compassionate and connect so well over the podcast. I can tell I would love them in person too!
  • Underwear user
    Seane Corn podcast
    Love all of your podcasts. This one was one of my favorites. Seane Corn is an amazing spirit and I was so happy to hear her on your show.
  • highpriestess89
    Love you guys!
    You two are truly a blessing, giving your every episode is inspiring and I can’t get enough. I’m learning so much. So thank you very much for this podcast 🙏
  • westcottwy
    Grateful
    I so look forward to the weekly podcast. For me it feels like a beautiful conversation with close friends. I love listening and the Aha! moments. It has been a useful tool for me during this transition in my life. 50 year old divorced after 27 years during a pandemic. This has definitely been a bright light for me during the dark moments. My toolbox continues to build! Thankful I found you❤️
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